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economy going in what can you expect. [ laughter ] >> that was a good question. [ applause ] >> john: that is all we have time on. thanks to the panel. i'm jon scott. thanks for watching. we'll see you again next week. >>chris: i am chris wallace reporting from the republican national convention where a big storm and mitt romney are the two top stories. >> in a fox news sunday exclusive we will see the governor on the trail and discuss the issues and what he needs to do at convention. if voters take away one thing from the big show, what do you want that to be? we look at the romneys at their summer home in new hampshire and
hear about the romney olympics, what goes on at the kitchen table and the role mrs. romney plays in the campaign. >> do you give your husband advice? >> not on policy. >> on strategy? >> he gets advice from everyone. he is amazing. >> i didn't know she didn't get advise on policy. >>chris: the latest on the state of the presidential race. well ask our sunday panel about the g.o.p.'s big week in tampa, and how the obama campaign plans to respond. all right now. on fox news sunday. hello, again, great fox news in tampa site of the republican national convention. we are coming to you, today, from our sky box in the dam pa bay times forum, with the convention supposed to start on monday but a dangerous storm named isaac headed this way has changed those plans. the republicans have canceled
the first days of the convention and squeezed it into a three day event and there could be more changes. joining us now is the head of the national committee committee. chairman, what is the latest on isaac and how hard will it hit tampa? >> we do not thing it will be that bad in tampa but the driving wind and rain, we had to make a decision that puts safety first. here are a couple of things that caused the decision: we could not be assured safe travel path with the huge buses over the bridges between clearwater and tampa and the secret service took down the tents and people would be standing in line in driving rain. when those two things started to come to fruition we had to make a decision. >>chris: if tampa is out of the danger zone this could be a hurricane zone, as it moves to
louisiana and alabama and mississippi. four years ago you were 1,000 miles away from minnesota because it was not appropriate to be partying while fellow americans were in trouble. what if they have to cancel tuesday? i doubt that. this is done out of abundance of caution for our delegates in tampa. >>chris: in the storm is bearing down or hitting the gulf coast you could go ahead with the convention on tuesday? >> we have to take it as it comes. we will make sure that we do the right thing. safety first. obviouslies we want to make sure that everyone, no matter where you are, is safe in the storm. but we are moving forward. we will make sure that we are smart and we are making the decisions that are wise for our party or nominee.
>>chris: what does this do to the romney campaign if this convention is shrunk, as it will to three days and possibly two days. >>guest: we will have a great convention and prosecute obama on his promises made and promises delivered. we are not where we need to be. we need, we have to fire obama and save the country. we will make the mitt romney case this week. >>chris: on monday it would be the contrast day where you go after president obama. can you squeeze that? >>guest: we are meeting with the production staff today and the messaging we were going to put out on monday will be fit in on tuesday, when, and thursday. >>chris: it was not your decision to hold this with your predecessor, any questions about holding it in florida in the middle of hurricane season? >>guest: we have had conventions in miami, new orleans, houston, charlotte, new york could be in a hurricane
path, and this is a great place to be, we are excited about being here in tampa and about winning florida in november. chris we will stand by to see what isaac has in store this week. now to our big interviews. we spent much of the week with the romneys and in a few minutes we will give you a rare look at life inside the family and our surprisingly candidate talk with mit and ann romney. but, first, we caught up with the governor on the campaign trail late this week in michigan. governor, welcome back to fox news sunday. good to be with you. >>chris: what do you hope to achieve over the next week? i like people to stand back and say, what are the big issues america faces? what are the answers that i have and that paul ryan has for the issues that we face? i believe that if people stand back and consider all that america has to deal with going forward, they will recognize we are the only team that has answers for the challenges.
they are big and bold antis. america needs that kind of held when so many people are out of work or underemployed or having a hard time making end's meet. >>chris: if voters take away one thing from your big acceptance speech on thursday night, what do you want that to be? >>guest: that i believe in america and in the american people. that i believe this nation is unique and exceptional and we have everything we need to continue to lead the world in prosperity and peace. >>chris: in the wake of congressman akin's comments on sunday, the obama campaign is, again, attacking republicans for what they call the so-called war on women. i know you have an economic area of jobs and opportunity but i want you to deal with the social issues. , how do you answer the charge they have offer more support and choice on abortion and rape and
women's health care? >> with regard to women's health care, i got health care for all the men and women in our state. they are just talking about it at the federal level. we did it without raising taxes or cutting medicare. i am proud of what we did. we helped women and men and children in our state. number two -- we did it without cutting medicare which, obviously, affect as lost women. the way the president cut $716 billion for medicare on current retirees. regarding contraceptions, republicans and myself, recognize people should have a right to use contraceptives. there is that validity whatever to the obama effort to try and bring that up. with regard to the issue of abortion, that is something where men and women have alternative views, or different views. we look at an issue like that with great seriousness and recognize that different people
have reached different conclusions but it is not just men who think one way. weapon, also it man cases are pro life. there are two lives, the unborn child and the mom. i care for both of them. >>chris: according to the polls this is a gender gap. you lead among men and he leads you among women. specifically, how much do you think congressman akin's remark about "legitimate rape," hurts you. >>guest: it was a terrible statement on his part. i think it was uninformed. ing it was outrageous and of on fencive i have asked him to get out of the race. i think i have againsted myself from the kind of thing as far as i can. he was wrong. obviously, it is being used by democrats to try and cast a shadow on our entire party. it is not. leaders of the party have pretty much unanimously said, mr. akip, get out of the race, you have said something which is highly
offensive. >>chris: democrats are running ads, and it looks like your campaign logo, romney, ryan, and akin. >>guest: that is sad for the obama campaign to stoop to such a low level, they understand and they are wise enough to understand, they are doing this because we disagree with what he said. we believe it hurts our party and we believe it is damaging to women. >>chris: now, let's run through a few issues. you say the president is raiding medicare and that you would restore the $716 billion that he takes out of medicare to pay for obamacare but the medicare trustees say if you do that, part of medicare, the hospital transfer trust funds runs out
money in 2016, rather than 2024. so, how would you keep medicare solvent when it runs out of money? i am replacing obamacare and what i will replace them with will hold down the cost of health care and keep it from growing at the massive rate. i amnesty just getting rid of obamacare but replacing it. cutting medicare for current seniors by, 716 billion, that is not being done to save medicare, it is being done to pay for obamacare. restoring that money to medicare does not make it less solvent but more solvent. >> can you give a couple of examples of specific things between 2013 and 2016 to keep the hospital trust fund going? >>guest: during those four years, well, specifically, you are asking for my plan for health care and it indicate as whole series of things. one is to have individuals purchasing their own insurance on a tax advantage basis.
two, make sure --. >>chris: i am talking medicare. >>guest: if you take action it slows down health inflation and that helps medicare. but one thing is for sure, putting money back in medicare helps it, it does not hurt it. you accuse the president of running an angry campaign and even used the phrase a campaign of hate. the president, this week, said, look, i pointed out the differences between us on policy. where do you see a campaign of hate? >>guest: well, when the president accuses me of being a felon or when his staff does and he did not distance great that, or they have a pac which says i am responsible for someone's death and he will not distance himself from that, i suggest that is a campaign of anger. it is between the "haves" and the have not's, the people of one location versus another, one street versus another street,
that is the kind of divisiveness that american recognize. despite spending massively more they have not gained the traction he would expect. people have seen this kind of character assassination and divisiveness as being very different than the campaign of "hope and change," he ran originally. >>chris: you talk about spending and romney and obama campaigns have spend half a billion, together, and what does not include the outside groups or the super pac's. when i talked with mrs. romney, she said the other day if you are elected you would like to begin to get some of this huge amount of money, some say obscene amounts of money, back out of politics and would consider accepting federal matching funds in four years s that true? >>guest: absolutely. this president, when he was -- he was the first post watergate candidate who said he would push
aside the federal spending limits and respond an unlimited amount becaused on what he could raise and to be competitive we obviously are following suit. but i would far rather have a setting where we both agreed to federal spending limits. he has caused something that causes us both to spend time on fundraising and it increases the potential of money having influence in politics. it is outrageous decision and remarkably, the more liberal voices that have been fighting for campaign financial reform for decades, that had almost nothing to say when their candidate was the one who blew up the campaign finance achievements that have been made over the past decade or so. >>chris: you have taken a lot of heat about tax returns. i want to ask you one question about that. you have been running for president for almost eight years and the question is, why didn't you years ago, go to the people
running your blind trust and say to then, let's get out of this swiss bank accounts and get out of the investments in the cayman islands, even if we have to pay more taxes to clear the decks politically. >>guest: well, first of all there is not one reduction of accounts in overseas accounts there is no tax savings and the conduct of the trustee in making investments was consistent with u.s. law and the taxes paid were those legally owed and there was no tax savings by advisory use of the entities. >>chris: why not just say get out of these things. >>guest: do not invest in anything outside of the united states, i don't whether that -- i could have said do not make investments in foreign companies or foreign bonds or foreign currency or do not buy foreign products or have japanese
tv's...i could have done that. but i did live my life and i expect by virtue of disclosing all of these things people can see if that is something they comfortable with or not. i will not try to hide who i am and hide the truth. >>neil: what do you make of this talk, this is certainly some talk, about the cayman islands and the swiss bank accounts. >>guest: i understand what is what the democrats and the obama people will do. again, their campaign is not about the big issues america faces. their campaign is not about the fact you have 23 million people out of work. half the kids coming out of cling cannot find work. their campaign is trying to find something to say, he had a swiss bank account which was done by the blind trustee. i had no involvement but the blind trust, we would have some currencies in foreign countries and that is something which investors do, but they are trying to make that sell like it
is and poor action and all taxes are paid exactly as owed and there was no tax save ensure by advisory use of having that vehicle. >>chris: you are about to become the republican nominee for president. one step away from the oval office. and your beloved father tried for this and did nat -- not make it and you have tried for eight years. what are your thoughts? >>guest: you may find this hard to believe but this is not about me or about what this means for me or what it means for our family. this is not an ego ride for me. i'm really concerned about america. this president is weakening america in very fundamental ways. a last people are suffering for it now and over the coming decade the decisions he is making will cause a lot more
people to suffer. i lock at this as a responsibility and a privilege an honor to be the nominee of my party. this is an opportunity to get america on track. can i win this? can i be successful? if i can, i want to make sure we get the country back on track. i am focused on not letting down millions of people who have endorsed my effort who have sent checks in. not am i great for getting this, but i feel a lot of people are counting on me, hoping i will be able to win and i will be able to get america on track again. >>chris: one last swing at the personal side of this. i take your point have you been thinking about your dad recently? and what would he say? >>guest: i always think about my dad. and my mom for that matter.
i think allotted about them. i am drafting a convention speech and thinking about the kind of things my dad would say if he had the chance to offer that speech. i think like most guy whose have lost their mom and dad i think about them when i pray, i think about him all the time. >>chris: what do you think he would do about taking the step that he was unable to and being the republican come knee. >>guest: he gave some advice to the new governor of michigan, years ago, and i have heard him give it to many. be bold. just be bold. get the job done. that is the advice he would give me. >>chris: governor, thank you and have a good weekend in tampa. up next, a side of mitt romney and ann romney you have never seen, at their summer home in new hampshire.
>>chris: back now at the tampa bay times forum. one of mitt romney's biggest problems is the perception push by the obama campaign he is out of touch. he does not understand what mean american families are going through, they say. early this week the romneys invited to us their new hampshire vacation spot, opening their home to cameras for the first time in this campaign. the romney summer home is a beautiful place right on the shore of a lake. but the first thing we noticed was a sign next to the front door the boys gave their parents some years back. bed and breakfast, ann and mitt
romney host. they were making her trademark buttermilk pancakes. she prepares the batter and he cooks. >> it is early. a little early. everything is a family affair. the kitchen is designed with a hole in the center so the grandparent can help. >> they can work, as well and make sandwiches or do what they can. i stand leader and i am the orchestra leader. >>chris: you arrest short order cook. >> she made two types of batter. >>chris: what do your grandkids call you? >> papa. for a while we are i'm and mami
mamie. ike and mamie. >>chris: the governor served the pancakes starting the first controversy of the day. >> are you a real maple syrup guy? now, this is new hampshire maple syrup. >>chris: is there any other kind? >> there is, vermont. >>chris: but vermont is not a swing state. but maple syrup is not what the governor wanted. >> are you putting peanut better on my pancakes? >> don't worry, honey. chris i decided off to get off that sticky subject by quickly eating my pancakes. >> yummy, isn't it? >>chris: their oldest son is there with his wife and their kids. what are the family meals like? >> little bit of craziness. dad goes first because he does not want to wait for the grand
children because it takes forever, the parents are serving it up and he is usually finished by the time we sit down. >> he starts on the dishes. >>chris: talk is usually about family and sports, not politics. and they saved the serious stuff for nighttime, after the kids go to bed. >> in the family room and i will it is around, we all it is around and we begin by taking one couple and saying let's talk about your life and your decisions and everyone office their advice. >>chris: do you like having your parents and your brothers and sisters, all weighing in on your likes? >> well, it depends on the shes. >>chris: they hold a family reunion one week each summer, the parents, the five sons and their wives and 18 grandchild. that brings us to the chore wheel. the kids have to make their beds
brush their teeth and read scripture, the sons and their wives get to clean up. >> there are three areas that are a mess, so it is cleaning those areas and sweeping and kitchen duty, cleaning up so this changes each day by one motion and everyone get as different job. >>chris: what is missing is mitt romney and ann. we are involved in all of the above. >>chris: it was time to sit down with the governor and mrs. romney. for someone running for president the better part of eight years a lot of people still ask not have a good fix on hill. >>chris: your son says you are the great stabilizer, and you have said that sometimes you feel you have to talk him east rails. when do you bring out the stabilizer? and what is it do you? >> he can get intense, sometimes. and maybe people do not recognize that, but there are times when he is just my
stabilizer. it works both ways. >> we talk it out. >> it is not anything specific. it is just being around each other, just being around each other gives us a sense of security and serenity and peace and all those good things that happen just by being together. >> she has an intuitive sense to looking at people and considering individuals as to which people are telling us the straight story and which people are phony. she has a sense of how other people might feel about something. >>chris: let's talk about your role in the campaign. do you give your husband advice? >> not on policy. >>chris: on strategy? advice on staff? >> poor mitt romney, he gets advice from everyone, even me. >> i didn't know she didn't give advise on policy. i might weigh in on that. >> ann is really good, really good at seeing things in ways others don't see them and being
able to provide that openly to me and i value it very highly. she is, she has been my best friend, obviously, and my counselor throughout my life. >>chris: you disagree on some issues? >> do not ask me which one the i'm not going to tell you. chris can you give my one? >> no, because we have to have a united front on that area. >>chris: let's talk about planned parenthood. you have had serious health problems back in the 1990's you gave some money to planned parenthood. what do you think your husband's policy to cut off federal funding? >> it is important the distinction is made that it is federal funding, it does not mean there will not be a planned parenthood. when he is paul get to washington they will balance the budget and there will be cuts made to a lot of programs that people do not like. it is just what the reality of
the situation is right now. we are going do have to face some tough places. >> planned parenthood, given the fact it is a major provider of abortions should now receive federal funding. it should be receiving funding from people who want to contribute and support the effort of breast exams but i don't think it is a responsibility of the federal government to provide money to planned parenthood. >>chris: mrs. romney, there is a perception among many voters that this fellow is out of touch. how do you help people feel his compassion, that for lack of a better phrase, he feels their pain. i wish everyone could see him as i see him. i have seen how compassionate he is as a mother, and a wife and raising small children and he valued my work asening -- as being more important than his. >>chris: how about feeling the pain of the larger american
family, the foes who are struggling. >> that is why we are running. everyone looks to be doing pretty well but, i am saying to the people, we are running for the people who are worried about a paycheck or for those worried about how they will afford to built indicate their children. >>chris: governor, does it bother you according to the polls people do not like you more or is that not important? >> all i can do is be who i am and remember popeye, i am what i am and that is all i am and i am doing my best to get the country back on track to help the bill who need to be sure they and find a good job, they can have a secure retirement, their child will get the kind of education their child needs these are things people worry about. i know how to make those things happen. that's why i'm in the race.
>> governor, a lightning round of in or out of touch questions. do you go to the grocery store? >> yes. >>chris: you act like i'm an idiot to ask that? >> when i was really, really sick, and this is where people need to understand where mitt comes from i was unable to do anything in a normal life. i could not cook or go to the story during the time he was running the olympics and putting in long hours, and he would come home and stop at 9 grocery store, he was making dinner, doing all the things and saying, ann, it is okay, you are fine, don't worry. that is not why i love you, because you go to the store and you make dinner, i love you because i love you, not what you do. >>chris: i notice there is no staff here, no cooks, no maids. why not? >> you know, we are pretty dependent, that is how we like it, to do our own things and
mitt ironed his own shirt and he did the laundry last night. >>chris: i hear from my sources you have an unhealthy attraction to costco? >> we lost -- love costco. i love costco. it is great. >>chris: why? >> it is great. >>chris: i'm in town. >> you go in the door, i don't want anyone to learn the trick, you go in, take a chart right and go to the back of the store and go the outside of the aisle, boom, boom, boom. i got a three pack of shirts from costco and they are very nice shirts. >> he wears them all the time. that shirts looks pretty good. i got it at costco. >>chris: what are the romney olympics. >> the boys and daughters if law and i get together, there is a swimming component and running component and biking component. >> that has deteriorated.
>> we did not do it this year. >> when mitt starting getting beaten by the daughter if law. >>chris: i heard an ugly rumor you started adding old guy events. i what to get back in the competition. >> he still comes in last. >> true. >>chris: they took us outside. mrs. romney helped two-year-old johnny with his shoes. the governor showed off a new trick the dog just learned. >>chris: is this where the romney olympics take place. >> right here the site of the lumper back events. under the honoring is -- the awning contest. >>chris: it looks like a summer camp with a dock and a trampoline. but you see the patrol boat and
you are reminded this man can soon be president. i hope so. i am landing on it. it is credit school for the country and the things i have learned over my life and the people i learned to work with are the kind of people we need to get the country on track. i asked the governor about that from a more personal perspective, as you it is here, on the verge of becoming the republican nominee for president, what does this woman mean to you and what role has she played in your journey, where you are now, and where you may be seen? >> at the beginning i just loved her and now she is more than the person i love but also the person i really live for. he is my counselor. my friend. and my inspiration. but, also, the person i love. if there is anything, if i have any time available and people say, what would you like to do, i like to be with ann and do
something together. >>chris: not a bad guy. >> that is pretty good. >>chris: they have been taking their grandchild on the campaign trail with them, a couple of months ago, four-year-old nate asked, papa, have you beaten president obama yet and the governor had to tell his grandson, "not yet." up next our sunday group joins us here to talk about the weather and what mitt romney weather and what mitt romney needs to do in tampa.♪
one in 6 americans will get sick from food poisoning this year. check your steps at foodsafety.gov. >> this is a president who says one thing and cannot deliver. it is finally time to get a budget who can do what he says he will do. (applause) chris mitt romney in ohio on saturday making the case we will hear often here in tampa, that
he, not president obama, is the right man to lead the country the next four years. time to welcome our sunday group: bill kristol, kirsten powers, and former governor mike huckabee, a syndicated radio programmer, and political analyst, juan williams. bill, we have to start with the weather, with the big storm, isaac, which forced the cancellation of at least the first day, and conceivably, conceivably a second day if it is bad enough on the gulf coast. what does it do to what mitt romney needs to accomplish? >> it is fine. the first day was going to be obama bashing and, that is kind of pointless. the voters have seen president obama for four years and made up their mind on his successes and failures. romney campaign has to use the convention to make the case for mitt romney and paul ryan. monday was about obama i am
happy it is gone. >>chris: okay. we will talk to a speaker. >> that is a special reason. >>chris: kirsten, it seems mitt romney and the campaign have a lot they need to do. they have to appeal to women, they have to reach out to hispanics, most importantly they have to quinn the middle class voters they understand them and they care about them. can they do that in a week in tampa? >>guest: yes. the most important speech is actually ann romney's speech in dealing with the likability issue and, do you care about people like me, areas where mitt romney is polling behind obama but he is polling ahead of obama on, can you handle the economy. what they need to do is show that side of him like we saw in the interview. we saw part of that. but to have ann romney to be
able to describe the man she knows and to humanize him. that is the most important thing. >>chris: governor, as we have pointed out to rudely by mr. kristol, do you know if you will speaking now with the change? what does the campaign want to you do? >>governor huckabee: i don't know if i will speak, and if they need the time for other people i am okay with that i mean that. >>chris: you is three hours a day on radio. >>governor huckabee: and others do not. i don't know if well be incorporated into the other night. i think the night is going to be "we can do better." a contrast. we need the contrast. we need to show there is a fundamental difference in the way that these two men approach this country, the problems and the solutions. i don't think what that is being negative but it is being honest. the idea we can do better is an
optimistic and hopeful message. i help the message is incorporated even if my speech is not. >>chris: governor, you are one of the few notables at this point who is defending todd akin who made the remark about "legitimate rape." i understand loyalty, but isn't he toxic to mitt romney? >>governor huckabee: i'm in the defending what he said. todd akin repudiated the statement, as he should have, because it was wrong, it was factually wrong, medically wrong, and he admitted that. he apologized. my point was not to say it was fine and no big deal, but it was a big deal. but so many republicans publicly distanced themselves from him over a comment he made when of all the republicans who is done foolish and ridiculous things and you did not see that. >>chris: is what he said and i what you are saying, isn't it still toxic for romney when he is facing a gender gap?
>>governor huckabee: no one like as gaffe. it is not good. you have to deal with it. everyone can deal with it by distancing themselves from the comment but you do not wipe out a person's entire life and career. the point is, it is a great opportunity not to talk about todd akin. the real issue, contrast the difference between any republican, mitt romney, anybody, and president obama's record on abortion, which is so far to the left of most democrats. three times as an illinois senator he voted against a bill that would require medical treatment for a baby that was born alive from a much woulded abortion. he supports partial-birth abortion, and he would not take a stand against gender selection abortion. that is radical and worth talking about. >>juan: we are here in florida, and it is very important that you understand the importance of the hispanic veto mitt romney and the republican fortunes.
right here this corridor that goes between tampa and orlando, that is where this election will be decided in this state with 27 electoral votes. it is critical he start to reach out and spread a message and bring together the party. the party is branded, unfortunately for the party, by people like akin. and extremists in the family. that is the dynamic driving the party. the question is, what does mitt romney's platform? is he a flip-flopper? or can he ameal to people who are more toward the middle and say, this is a real alternative to president obama. >>governor huckabee: mitt romney has a strong message, the biggest concern is, will people have a job? a lot people do not have choices. their houses are underwater, in florida there is a high percentage of people who have lost their homes or on verge of losing homes.
can someone step up and manage this crisis? when they look at 9 record of the two gentleman, it is obvious which one has the experience, the know how, and the will to manage an economy. it is not president obama. >>juan: can i say something? >> that was so good, mike need as prime time key spot to give a switch. >>juan: fox has a poll that asked the basic question, do you approve or disapprove of president obama's stewardship of the economy and 50 percent disapproved but when the question was asked, who has the land going forward? who do you trust going forward to manage the economy? it was a tie. the reason is, i think, and hopefully we will see it this week, romney has not come forward with convincing plan for how he will help the middle class and how he is in touch with issues of the increasing, ratio between the rich and poor. that is a huge disappointment who is running on his experience as a financial steward. >>chris: we have to take a
i can't speak to governor romney's motivations what i can't speak to governor romney's motivation but what i can say he signed up for positions, extreme positions that are consistent with the position as number of house republicans have taken. >>chris: president obama in an interview with a.p. arguing that mitt romney is a captive of conservative congressional
republicans. we are back with our panel. juan, is that the most effective argument, that president romney will march in step with conservative republicans and pump an effective agenda? >>juan: addisoning number of americans say they do not know who mitt romney is. he will be introduced so when you ask, what does he stand for, if president obama and the democrats are able to define him as the man who picked paul ryan would had this extreme budget on medicare, the man who says on abortion, gosh, i am not sure and he has flip-flopped on abortion, and the guy on gay rights has flip plopped and the guy would has turned away from the hispanics, if they see as extremists, especially moderates and women, will not play ball. >>chris: governor, what do you think of the argument by the president against romney?
how effective is that? and what do you make of the claim in the same interview that if he is re-elected, he will be able to forge compromises with house republicans because they will to longer be obstructionist. >>governor huckabee: look at house republicans. if addressing the serious problems of the incredible choking debt, if dealing with presenting a budget opposed to the senate which has not had a budget since april of 2009, if having convictions is a problem, that is a problem republicans are delighted to have and a prop i would like to run on, being president for four years with nothing to show. >>chris: but the argument, i can make compromises in a second year because --. >>governor huckabee: i know what he whispered to the president, i worry about a president willing to say give me a second term and i will not have to worry about the constitutional restrictions of check and balance.
that is what i am saying. >>juan: when does he say that? >>governor huckabee: to the russian president. >>governor huckabee: flexibility. i am just saying the whole idea our government is the checks and balances of three branches with equal power, not someone would believes he can ignore the law. >>chris: kirsten, when when party holds a convention traditionally the other goes off the stage but the democrats are not doing this. we know that president obama is going to be on college cam pitses trying to reenergize the youth vote and joe biden was until the weather hit, going to be here in florida and my shoal -- michelle obama will make, many appearances were smart? >>guest: yes. the only thing outside the normal behavior would have been bide incoming -- bideen then coming down. they are trying to define him as an extremist, a radical, they
are going to continue to use the todd akin thing, calling ryan his ideological twin, so they are trying to make sure when this is over they have convinced people that the person they are presenting romney to be is with he is. >>chris: i talked to karl coffee -- karl rove and he said both of the guys have a jobs and romney only has to reshape the perception that people have about him. obama has to reshape the way people view his first four years in office. >> he cannot do that. the obama campaign is counter programming. what is the obama campaign? be scared of mitt romney. he has been president for four years. can you not change that one or two speech speeches and bill clinton reinterpreting. people can see the degree to which president obama has not succeeded measured by husband own criteria. i think mitt romney has a bigger challenge and both --. >>chris: romney has a bigger
challenge? >> sure, he has to make the case to the american public. obama teach will be out there this week and next making the case against mitt romney. there is a temptation in the romney catch, they are hitting us, we have to hit them back. they need to be disciplined and say, the american public does not know romney as well as president obama. what is the positive agenda going forward? if this week is about the next four years not the last four years but the temptation is, look what they did two years ago, that is terrible. make it about the future and lay out the positive message for the romney administration. >>chris: bill as we go into the two week stretch of the first republican convention and then the democratic convention and the president, it is about debt even but it looks like in the electoral votes, the president has a slight lead. >> i think it is 50-50, winnable
race and mitt romney's to win. i give obama a slight edge but reserving judgment physical after the debates. >>governor huckabee: i think romney has the leading hand in this because he goes into looking at a report that is dismal and he has a successful record to lay on the land for america. >>juan: if you look at the critical states, the swing states, boiling down to seven, you have to stay obama has the advantage but it is not a great advantage so, in terms of the electoral college, he has an advantage. if you polled people, they blame congress to get back to the other question is romney in lock step, they blame congress and romney, again, advantage obama, even to the point, with great aggravation to my pal, the governor, they still blame george bush for the economy. >>chris: governor, you are a smart politician yourself, if you were advising mitt romney about his big speech on thursday night, the biggest moment of the campaign, what does he need to accomplish?
>>governor huckabee: be positive. lay out the vision. tell us what is different about america when he is president. >>chris: what about the idea of humanizing. >>governor huckabee: if you do not have a job you do not care about the bedside matter but you care about the surgical skills. >>chris: good advice. check out panel plus we pick up with the discussion on our website and we will post the video before noon eastern time. follow us on twitter. twitter @s sunday. wallabwe'll be right back withe final thoughts. we asked over 3,000 doctors to review 5-hour energy and what they said is amazing. over 73 percent who reviewed 5-hour energy said they would recommend a low calorie energy supplement to their healthy patients who use energy supplements.